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a pair in the sixteen relations

ENTP×INTP

ILE × ILI

Extinguishment

Understand each other well, then go your separate ways.

You get along astonishingly well. What you read is close; what amuses you is close. Still, while the two of you are together, not much tends to get decided.

ENTP and INTP compatibility in brief (love, work, friendship)

ENTP × INTP is the Extinguishment relation, one of the sixteen. Understand each other well, then go your separate ways.

LoveA good combination at the entrance. It stalls when you try to make household decisions together.WorkPlaced as equals you wear each other down. Work independently in parallel, or decide the ranking.Friends & conversationAlone together, the best scene. The moment someone joins, it becomes a different scene.

Written as INTP × ENTP it is the same pair. In 16Personalities terms, the Debater and the Logician.

You get along too well

Interested in the same territory, one understands what the other starts to say without hearing it to the end. The feel at this stage is almost indistinguishable from duality.

But the direction is reversed. ENTP multiplies possibilities; INTP narrows and discerns. Neither is wrong, so no great conflict arises; instead you argue over details. INTP does not want the options ENTP added, and ENTP does not accept the conclusion INTP arrived at. It gets through, yet no exchange takes place.

Each sees in the other the side they suppress in themselves. ENTP sees pessimism and stillness in INTP; INTP sees clutter and lightness in ENTP. So you suppress each other's most vivid part, and though you can see the other's weakness, you do not go to help.

Best when alone; broken when a third person enters.

When a third person enters, it becomes a competition

Alone together it got through, but when a third party enters, each tries to push their own argument through. Both fear losing credibility in public. The introverted side takes distance first, warmth turning to formality, and ENTP feels unfairly pigeonholed and goes on the defensive. Back to two, this phenomenon disappears.

Both secretly regret it. I wish I had not confided. Since they were in harmony as two, what happened cannot be understood.

Placed as equals you cancel each other out. Work independently in parallel, or decide the ranking and let the one above respect the way of the one below, and it functions. Views on raising children are opposite, and to avoid quarrelling in front of the child, one side silently complies.

How each sees the other

ENTP → INTP

Someone who understands at the same speed as you.

But they close, one by one, the branches you opened.

And they change when people are around. Suddenly formal, and pigeonholing you.

INTP → ENTP

Someone to whom you need not explain the premises.

On the other hand, the talk never ends. Produce one answer and it comes back with three more.

And in public they try to push their own argument through. You withdraw.

What has been recorded

A pair on record

Leonardo da Vinci (ILE) × Niccolò Machiavelli (ILI)

Typing: both types agree across several published sources

In 1502 they were together in Cesare Borgia's camp. The next year they put together the plan to divert the Arno in order to take Pisa. Leonardo designed it; Machiavelli calculated it and carried it through politically. The digging was done by another engineer, who dug in a way that departed from the design, and the river did not flow. The mural commissioned through Machiavelli's mediation Leonardo also left unfinished.

What matches: there is one who has the ideas and one who calculates, and nobody who executes.

Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene

ConversationAlone together, the best scene. The moment someone joins, it becomes a different scene.
RomanceA good combination at the entrance. It stalls when you try to make household decisions together.
Living togetherThings not getting decided becomes daily life.
WorkPlaced as equals you wear each other down. Work independently in parallel, or decide the ranking.
FamilyA relation that is better the more distance there is. Even a few times a year, meet and it comes right back.

If you keep going

Do not push your argument through in public
It becomes a competition the moment a third person enters. In that setting, just lay the positions side by side.
Do not team up as equals
Side by side with the same authority, you cancel each other out.
If it goes wrong, go back to just the two of you
What went wrong in public usually disappears when you talk alone.

For these two

How to meet ── Somewhere for just the two of you
A relation best alone together and awkward when people are added. One-on-one settings, a quiet café. Meet in a group and the good side is invisible.
Approach ── Keep third parties out
Do not talk about the two of you in front of others. Do not meet with friends along. Make the period of running side by side long, just the two of you.
A date ── A quiet place, just the two
A private room, the mountains, the city at dawn. The fewer people, the better. Talk, between you, about growing the same interest in different directions.
Gifts ── for ENTP, Comfort; for INTP, Action
For ENTP: A good blanket, good food, things that ease the body. What ENTP does not buy for themselves.
For INTP: Take them out. Book it and pick them up. The movement INTP does not start alone.

PROne thing for this relation

A relation that understands well and goes its own ways, so tools for time alone.

Frequently asked

We get on alone but quarrel when people are around
The phenomenon most often observed in this relation.
I cannot explain why we parted
Because there was no fight. The topics thinned and the excuse to meet vanished.
Can we start something together?
Put the roles of deciding and executing with a third person, and it takes shape.
What is ENTP and INTP compatibility in love?
A good combination at the entrance. It stalls when you try to make household decisions together. More under "Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene" and "If you keep going".
Do ENTP and INTP work well together?
Placed as equals you wear each other down. Work independently in parallel, or decide the ranking. More under "Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene" and "If you keep going".

This pair is the extinguishment relation, one of the sixteen. How the relation itself arises, and how to tell it from the others, is on the relation page.

The two Model A's: what talks to what

ENTP on the left, INTP on the right. Each shows where the eight elements sit; lines connect the same element. Where each line starts and ends decides what happens in this relation.

ENTP · ILEINTP · ILIEGO1 leadingNeextraverted intuition2 creativeTiintroverted logicSUPER-EGO4 vulnerableFiintroverted ethics3 roleSeextraverted sensingSUPER-ID6 mobilizingFeextraverted ethics5 suggestiveSiintroverted sensingID8 demonstrativeTeextraverted logic7 ignoringNiintroverted intuition1 leadingNiintroverted intuition2 creativeTeextraverted logic4 vulnerableFeextraverted ethics3 roleSiintroverted sensing6 mobilizingFiintroverted ethics5 suggestiveSeextraverted sensing8 demonstrativeTiintroverted logic7 ignoringNeextraverted intuition

Lines connect the same element in the other person's structure. 1–2 (strong) 3 (role) 4 (vulnerable) 5–6 (wanted) 7–8 (capable, indifferent)

1 → 7NeENTP's 1 (leading) Ne (extraverted intuition) sits in INTP's position 7 (ignoring). INTP can do what ENTP is good at but does not value it. ENTP feels slightly unappreciated.
2 → 8TiENTP's 2 (creative) Ti (introverted logic) sits in INTP's position 8 (demonstrative). INTP can do what ENTP is good at but does not value it. ENTP feels slightly unappreciated.
3 → 5SeENTP's 3 (role) Se (extraverted sensing) sits in INTP's position 5 (suggestive). ENTP is weak here and INTP wants it. A gap neither can fill.
4 → 6FiENTP's 4 (vulnerable) Fi (introverted ethics) sits in INTP's position 6 (mobilizing). ENTP is weak here and INTP wants it. A gap neither can fill.
7 → 1NiENTP's 7 (ignoring) Ni (introverted intuition) sits in INTP's position 1 (leading). INTP's main field is one ENTP does not care about. Little friction, little interest.
8 → 2TeENTP's 8 (demonstrative) Te (extraverted logic) sits in INTP's position 2 (creative). INTP's main field is one ENTP does not care about. Little friction, little interest.

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