ENFJ enters from the emotion of the room and reads by the flow. ENFP enters from possibilities and moves by the ethics of people. People, ideals, opportunities. Interests overlap, and ENFJ's "moving" and ENFP's "opening" point in different directions within the same conversation.
In terms of positions, your strong places are of the same kind, with the direction reversed. The "emotion that moves the room" and "intuition that reads the flow" ENFJ uses consciously, ENFP holds unconsciously, and what ENFP uses consciously is the "eye that opens possibilities" and the "ethics of people". ENFJ holds those unconsciously. That is, each "knows" the other's strength. Knowing it, it gets through; only knowing it, you cannot learn.
In the old description, this relation is "attainable but far from ideal" for marriage, and "good results in a compatible field" for work cooperation.
Even if one negates forcefully, the other quietly keeps their own understanding.
Two ethical types are noisy
ENFJ waits for the logic that builds order; ENFP waits for practical logic. Both are the other's sore spot, and in trouble no support comes.
The weak places do not mesh. The "logic that builds order" ENFJ wants most is ENFP's most painful fourth. The "practical logic" ENFP wants is ENFJ's fourth. Each asks for what the other does not have, and lacks what the other asks for. In ordinary times you coexist calmly on parallel lines; in trouble you try to draw out help, and are irritated that none comes.
With matching subtypes it is calm; with mismatched ones, disapproval of each other's actions grows. When interdependence forms through a joint plan, the disapproval dissolves.
How each sees the other
ENFJ → ENFP
They see possibilities.
No discipline.
They ask you for the practical side.
ENFP → ENFJ
They move people.
Too dramatic.
They ask you for order.
What has been recorded
SCENE 01Up to a point
You understand each other up to a point and beyond it meet a hard disagreement. Even if one forcefully negates the other's expression for a moment, the other quietly goes on keeping their own understanding. What matters to one is small to the other, the record says.
SCENE 02Help you do not want to give
The weak places are weak in both. In trouble, help you do not want to give is drawn out, and the inability to support becomes mutual irritation, the record says.
SCENE 03In front of an audience
In group discussion with an audience they work well, supporting and building on each other's ideas and making far-reaching, ambitious plans together. Alone, or in a small group, the understanding suddenly thins, the record says.
Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene
ConversationHeated, up to a point.
RomanceIt gets noisy.
Living togetherIn trouble, no support comes.
WorkA joint plan dissolves the disapproval.
FamilyGood given an audience.
If you keep going
Have a joint plan
Interdependence dissolves the disapproval.
Do not negate
The other quietly keeps their own understanding.
Have practical matters and order outside
Each other's sore spots.
For these two
How to meet ── In front of people
A relation that sees different views in the same words. Meetings, parties, places with an audience. A good pair in public, so meeting there leaves a good impression.
Approach ── Do not hurry the conclusion
The talk fits. The conclusion does not. Do not try to change theirs; stop at "so that's how you see it". Enjoy the same book as a different book.
A date ── Somewhere crowded
A festival, a market, a big exhibition. Walking side by side among people is easier for these two than long hours alone.
Gifts ── for ENFJ, Something consistent; for ENFP, Comfort
For ENFJ: A book with clean logic, a tool with structure. What puts a spine into ENFJ's heat. For ENFP: Good food, something pleasant to the touch. The comfort ENFP does not arrange alone.
PROne thing for this relation
A relation that sees different views in the same words, so tools to set the views side by side.
Podcast equipmentThe conversation of these two comes alive when others listen.
Frequently asked
It gets through partway, and then
A hard disagreement beyond a certain point, the record says.
It gets noisy
Typical between two ethical types.
I cannot approve of my partner's actions
It changes with subtype and a joint plan, the observation says.
What is ENFJ and ENFP compatibility in love?
It gets noisy. More under "Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene" and "If you keep going".
Do ENFJ and ENFP work well together?
A joint plan dissolves the disapproval. More under "Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene" and "If you keep going".
This pair is the quasi-identity relation, one of the sixteen. How the relation itself arises, and how to tell it from the others, is on the relation page.
The two Model A's: what talks to what
ENFJ on the left, ENFP on the right. Each shows where the eight elements sit; lines connect the same element. Where each line starts and ends decides what happens in this relation.
Lines connect the same element in the other person's structure. 1–2 (strong) 3 (role) 4 (vulnerable) 5–6 (wanted) 7–8 (capable, indifferent)
1 → 8FeENFJ's 1 (leading) Fe (extraverted ethics) sits in ENFP's position 8 (demonstrative). ENFP can do what ENFJ is good at but does not value it. ENFJ feels slightly unappreciated.
2 → 7NiENFJ's 2 (creative) Ni (introverted intuition) sits in ENFP's position 7 (ignoring). ENFP can do what ENFJ is good at but does not value it. ENFJ feels slightly unappreciated.
3 → 6TeENFJ's 3 (role) Te (extraverted logic) sits in ENFP's position 6 (mobilizing). ENFJ is weak here and ENFP wants it. A gap neither can fill.
4 → 5SiENFJ's 4 (vulnerable) Si (introverted sensing) sits in ENFP's position 5 (suggestive). ENFJ is weak here and ENFP wants it. A gap neither can fill.
5 → 4TiENFJ's 5 (suggestive) Ti (introverted logic) sits in ENFP's position 4 (vulnerable). What ENFJ asks for is ENFP's weakest point. The more ENFJ asks, the smaller ENFP gets.
6 → 3SeENFJ's 6 (mobilizing) Se (extraverted sensing) sits in ENFP's position 3 (role). What ENFJ asks for is ENFP's weakest point. The more ENFJ asks, the smaller ENFP gets.
7 → 2FiENFJ's 7 (ignoring) Fi (introverted ethics) sits in ENFP's position 2 (creative). ENFP's main field is one ENFJ does not care about. Little friction, little interest.
8 → 1NeENFJ's 8 (demonstrative) Ne (extraverted intuition) sits in ENFP's position 1 (leading). ENFP's main field is one ENFJ does not care about. Little friction, little interest.