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a pair in the sixteen relations

INTJ×ESTJ

LII × LSE

Illusionary

Time with no need to hurry is there.

A pleasant partner to rest with. A protective attitude, and courtesy and punctuality. But frugal hospitality is read as coldness.

INTJ and ESTJ compatibility in brief (love, work, friendship)

INTJ × ESTJ is the Illusionary relation, one of the sixteen. Time with no need to hurry is there.

LoveIt collapses from the day thin hospitality is read as coldness.WorkThe speeds do not match.Friends & conversationNo problem at first.

Written as ESTJ × INTJ it is the same pair. In 16Personalities terms, the Architect and the Executive.

A protective attitude, and courtesy

Both logical types, open to novelty, reserved in intimacy. ESTJ's protective attitude resonates with INTJ; INTJ's courtesy and punctuality resonate with ESTJ. ESTJ moves by giving comfort; INTJ stimulates with new plans.

In terms of the mechanism, INTJ's second position, "eye that opens possibilities", lands in ESTJ's sixth; ESTJ's second, "sensing that arranges comfort", lands in INTJ's sixth. The sixth is a place you produce with a little effort, and it feels good when the other fills it lightly. The ease of resting together comes from this way of entering.

At first you exchange information, and there is no problem.

What did I do wrong?

Reading caution as stinginess

INTJ reads ESTJ's frugal hospitality as coldness and rejection, and their caution as calculating stinginess. ESTJ does not know what they did wrong.

But the first position does not reach. INTJ's "logic that carries reasoning through" is ESTJ's seventh, which they let pass; ESTJ's "practical logic" sits in the same place for INTJ. What the other values most, you know, and make light of. And the "emotion that warms the room" INTJ wants most is ESTJ's third; the "ethics of people" ESTJ wants is INTJ's third. It comes when asked, and does not last. Good as a place to rest, thin as a place to lean on. That is the shape of the illusionary relation.

The way of working differs too. ESTJ works fifteen or sixteen hours a day and demands the same dedication. INTJ has the force to push in a painful place, cannot keep that pace, and cannot work without comfortable conditions.

The definition of fairness differs too. ESTJ: "what I earned, I divide". INTJ: "your salary grows and mine does not; it is unfair". Each speaks of their own advantage as universal fairness.

How each sees the other

INTJ → ESTJ

They protect you.

The hospitality is thin.

"What I earned is mine", they say.

ESTJ → INTJ

Courteous, and punctual.

They do not work at your speed.

"Unfair", they say.

What has been recorded

Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene

ConversationNo problem at first.
RomanceIt collapses from the day thin hospitality is read as coldness.
Living togetherIt splits over working pace and the definition of fairness.
WorkThe speeds do not match.
FamilyThe misreading of hospitality remains.

If you keep going

Say what the hospitality means
Frugality is read as coldness.
Do not demand the same speed
INTJ cannot keep it.
Do not call fairness universal
Each is speaking of their own advantage.

For these two

How to meet ── In a place of rest
A relation in which you need not hurry. A trip, a hot spring, a long holiday. It is not found in places where people are hurrying.
Approach ── Do not invite; just be beside them
The less these two move, the better. An active approach breaks the place of rest. Spending the same time in the same place is itself the way closer.
A date ── Hot springs, naps, a long breakfast
A day of nothing. No plans. These two are no help when in trouble, so pick a day with no trouble.
Gifts ── for INTJ, Feelings put into words; for ESTJ, Feeling
For INTJ: A letter, a sentence said face to face. The warmth INTJ cannot produce alone.
For ESTJ: A letter, something handmade, words. What ESTJ does not produce alone.

PROne thing for this relation

A relation with time that need not hurry, so tools for resting.

Frequently asked

I do not know what I did wrong
Thin hospitality is being read as coldness.
My partner does not work
The speed and the conditions differ.
I am told it is unfair
The definitions of fairness differ.
What is INTJ and ESTJ compatibility in love?
It collapses from the day thin hospitality is read as coldness. More under "Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene" and "If you keep going".
Do INTJ and ESTJ work well together?
The speeds do not match. More under "Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene" and "If you keep going".

This pair is the illusionary relation, one of the sixteen. How the relation itself arises, and how to tell it from the others, is on the relation page.

The two Model A's: what talks to what

INTJ on the left, ESTJ on the right. Each shows where the eight elements sit; lines connect the same element. Where each line starts and ends decides what happens in this relation.

INTJ · LIIESTJ · LSEEGO1 leadingTiintroverted logic2 creativeNeextraverted intuitionSUPER-EGO4 vulnerableSeextraverted sensing3 roleFiintroverted ethicsSUPER-ID6 mobilizingSiintroverted sensing5 suggestiveFeextraverted ethicsID8 demonstrativeNiintroverted intuition7 ignoringTeextraverted logic1 leadingTeextraverted logic2 creativeSiintroverted sensing4 vulnerableNiintroverted intuition3 roleFeextraverted ethics6 mobilizingNeextraverted intuition5 suggestiveFiintroverted ethics8 demonstrativeSeextraverted sensing7 ignoringTiintroverted logic

Lines connect the same element in the other person's structure. 1–2 (strong) 3 (role) 4 (vulnerable) 5–6 (wanted) 7–8 (capable, indifferent)

1 → 7TiINTJ's 1 (leading) Ti (introverted logic) sits in ESTJ's position 7 (ignoring). ESTJ can do what INTJ is good at but does not value it. INTJ feels slightly unappreciated.
2 → 6NeINTJ's 2 (creative) Ne (extraverted intuition) sits in ESTJ's position 6 (mobilizing). What INTJ produces naturally is what ESTJ has been waiting for. The most comfortable flow.
3 → 5FiINTJ's 3 (role) Fi (introverted ethics) sits in ESTJ's position 5 (suggestive). INTJ is weak here and ESTJ wants it. A gap neither can fill.
4 → 8SeINTJ's 4 (vulnerable) Se (extraverted sensing) sits in ESTJ's position 8 (demonstrative). ESTJ quietly covers INTJ's weak point. For ESTJ it is nothing.
7 → 1TeINTJ's 7 (ignoring) Te (extraverted logic) sits in ESTJ's position 1 (leading). ESTJ's main field is one INTJ does not care about. Little friction, little interest.
8 → 4NiINTJ's 8 (demonstrative) Ni (introverted intuition) sits in ESTJ's position 4 (vulnerable). INTJ could protect ESTJ's weak point but is not inclined to. Will if asked.

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