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a pair in the sixteen relations

ENFJ×ESTJ

EIE × LSE

Super-ego

It continues calmly because you do not come close.

Ideals and procedure. You can see what the other is aiming at, yet the one who moves people and the one who runs things cannot share one command.

ENFJ and ESTJ compatibility in brief (love, work, friendship)

ENFJ × ESTJ is the Super-ego relation, one of the sixteen. It continues calmly because you do not come close.

LoveDrama and reality look to each other like insult and groundlessness.WorkWhile there is a crisis outside, a reinforcement of strength.Friends & conversationA tug of war between ideals and procedure.

Written as ESTJ × ENFJ it is the same pair. In 16Personalities terms, the Protagonist and the Executive.

Ideals and practical matters

ENFJ moves the room and reads the flow. ESTJ runs practical matters and arranges bodily comfort. To ENFJ, ESTJ is someone doing with ease what ENFJ strains to do: arranging things. To ESTJ, ENFJ is someone doing with ease what ESTJ strains to do: moving people.

In terms of positions, the "emotion that moves the room" ENFJ does as naturally as breathing is, for ESTJ, the third position, where they strain out of duty. ESTJ's "practical logic" is likewise in ENFJ's third. That is, each shows the other, unaffectedly, the very thing the other is stretching to reach. That is the true nature of the superego relation's "respect", and at the same time of its "envy".

In the old observations, superego is the relation in which the strongest area of one's ego is, for the other, an area of pangs of conscience and lack of confidence. You understand the other's motives well, yet means and values differ too much for it to become competition.

Supporting, without submitting.

The heaviest cross

Up close, ENFJ's reading of the flow touches ESTJ's sore spot, and ESTJ's care of the body and remarks about reality touch ENFJ's. ENFJ's dramatic predictions look groundless to ESTJ; ESTJ's remarks about reality look like insult to ENFJ.

The second position's tool strikes the other's fourth. ENFJ's "intuition that reads the flow" is ESTJ's untouchable place; ESTJ's "sensing that arranges comfort" is ENFJ's. The better the other does it, the more you shrink. So doing the same task side by side collapses, and dividing the task leaves only respect.

The observation says tug of war becomes ordinary conversation, and putting one's own interest first turns it into ugly competition.

With separate specialities, a reinforcement of strength. Especially while there is a crisis outside.

How each sees the other

ENFJ → ESTJ

They run practical matters with ease.

They strike the sore spot with remarks about reality.

They demand grounds.

ESTJ → ENFJ

They move people with ease.

Too dramatic.

They strike the sore spot with talk of the flow.

What has been recorded

A pair on record

Charles de Gaulle (EIE) × Winston Churchill (LSE)

Typing: both types agree across several published sources

The leader of a government in exile and the prime minister who supported it. Churchill kept supporting him while calling him "the heaviest cross I have to bear"; de Gaulle, while supported, kept refusing subordination. Cooperation continued during the outside crisis, and distance returned when it passed.

What matches: acknowledging each other yet falling into tug of war when close; reinforcement of strength given separate specialities and a crisis.

Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene

ConversationA tug of war between ideals and procedure.
RomanceDrama and reality look to each other like insult and groundlessness.
Living togetherA tug of war over who is right.
WorkWhile there is a crisis outside, a reinforcement of strength.
FamilyWhen the crisis passes, distance returns.

If you keep going

Divide into ideals and practical matters
The same job means tug of war.
Do not blame the distance after a crisis
It returns when the crisis passes.
Do not demand grounds; do not make dramatic predictions
Each other's sore spots.

For these two

How to meet ── Where they can be seen from afar
A relation that works because you do not get close. Recitals, the stage, lectures. Meeting as an admirer is the best form.
Approach ── Respect their specialty
Do not imitate what they do with ease. Praise it. Doing the same work breaks it, so come closer while keeping your own specialty.
A date ── To the place they are good at
Go to see where they shine. Invite them to where you shine. Alternate. A date that does not stand on the same ground suits them.
Gifts ── for ENFJ, Something consistent; for ESTJ, Feeling
For ENFJ: A book with clean logic, a tool with structure. What puts a spine into ENFJ's heat.
For ESTJ: A letter, something handmade, words. What ESTJ does not produce alone.

PROne thing for this relation

A relation that stays calm because you do not get close, so things that can be handed over from afar.

Frequently asked

I respect them, yet it becomes tug of war
The superego form.
It was good during the crisis
The case shows distance returning when the crisis passes.
I was insulted by being asked for grounds
A reply that touched the practical side's fourth position.
What is ENFJ and ESTJ compatibility in love?
Drama and reality look to each other like insult and groundlessness. More under "Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene" and "If you keep going".
Do ENFJ and ESTJ work well together?
While there is a crisis outside, a reinforcement of strength. More under "Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene" and "If you keep going".

This pair is the superego relation, one of the sixteen. How the relation itself arises, and how to tell it from the others, is on the relation page.

The two Model A's: what talks to what

ENFJ on the left, ESTJ on the right. Each shows where the eight elements sit; lines connect the same element. Where each line starts and ends decides what happens in this relation.

ENFJ · EIEESTJ · LSEEGO1 leadingFeextraverted ethics2 creativeNiintroverted intuitionSUPER-EGO4 vulnerableSiintroverted sensing3 roleTeextraverted logicSUPER-ID6 mobilizingSeextraverted sensing5 suggestiveTiintroverted logicID8 demonstrativeNeextraverted intuition7 ignoringFiintroverted ethics1 leadingTeextraverted logic2 creativeSiintroverted sensing4 vulnerableNiintroverted intuition3 roleFeextraverted ethics6 mobilizingNeextraverted intuition5 suggestiveFiintroverted ethics8 demonstrativeSeextraverted sensing7 ignoringTiintroverted logic

Lines connect the same element in the other person's structure. 1–2 (strong) 3 (role) 4 (vulnerable) 5–6 (wanted) 7–8 (capable, indifferent)

1 → 3FeENFJ's 1 (leading) Fe (extraverted ethics) sits in ESTJ's position 3 (role). What ENFJ does as a matter of course lands on ESTJ's sore spot. Pressure without malice.
2 → 4NiENFJ's 2 (creative) Ni (introverted intuition) sits in ESTJ's position 4 (vulnerable). What ENFJ does as a matter of course lands on ESTJ's sore spot. Pressure without malice.
3 → 1TeENFJ's 3 (role) Te (extraverted logic) sits in ESTJ's position 1 (leading). ESTJ leads exactly where ENFJ is weak. ENFJ feels seen through.
4 → 2SiENFJ's 4 (vulnerable) Si (introverted sensing) sits in ESTJ's position 2 (creative). ESTJ leads exactly where ENFJ is weak. ENFJ feels seen through.
7 → 5FiENFJ's 7 (ignoring) Fi (introverted ethics) sits in ESTJ's position 5 (suggestive). ENFJ has what ESTJ wants without noticing. Appears only when asked.
8 → 6NeENFJ's 8 (demonstrative) Ne (extraverted intuition) sits in ESTJ's position 6 (mobilizing). ENFJ has what ESTJ wants without noticing. Appears only when asked.

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