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a pair in the sixteen relations

ISTP×ISTP

SLI × SLI

Identity

Half a sentence, and it gets through.

Half a sentence, and it gets through. Someone who fixes the same things with the same quiet. But with two people's worth of quiet, the conversation stops.

ISTP and ISTP compatibility in brief (love, work, friendship)

ISTP × ISTP is the Identity relation, one of the sixteen. Half a sentence, and it gets through.

LoveRare and short, the source says.WorkStrong on quality in the field.Friends & conversationIt stops.

Written as ISTP × ISTP it is the same pair. In 16Personalities terms, the Virtuoso and the Virtuoso.

No explanation needed

The same handiwork, the same sense of distance, the same reticence. You can sit side by side without explanation. It is also a chance to see yourself with the eyes of the same type.

In terms of the mechanism, the "sensing that arranges comfort" in ISTP's first position and the "practical logic" in the second sit in exactly the same positions in the other. The view you are best at, the other is best at too. So no explanation is needed, and so no new perspective comes from the other either. The strong places overlap, and do not double.

In the old observations, in identity the same elements of both act in the same positions, and a complete, painless repulsion arises. Since no words are needed, there is also nothing the other can hand you. For these two, emotional fire and future possibilities are absent on both sides.

The observation says the conversation between these two is loose, without feeling, and gradually monotonous. Both lower their emotional expression together and cool each other.

Where identity is most useful is in learning. If a senior of the same type has walked the same road ahead of you, their experience can be used as it is. The observations too say repeatedly that it lasts long as mentor and pupil or with a difference in age. Only when two equal ISTPs do the same thing in the same place does the repulsion described above arise.

Two people's worth of quiet becomes silence.

Looking unnatural

When the subtypes do not match, distrust and tension rise and the other's behaviour looks unnatural. Each feels the other is fake, rejects them, and they drift apart.

The empty places are the same too. The "ethics of people" ISTP wants most is what the other wants most, and neither has it. The "eye that opens possibilities", which each produces with a little effort, takes a little effort from both. What flows in silently between duals never flowed between these two in the first place.

Even in close friendship there is distance. Becoming lovers is rare, and marriages are short. Both are unconsciously looking for an expressive, spontaneous partner.

There is a good side. Seeing yourself with the eyes of the same type, you can evaluate your strengths and weaknesses objectively. You resonate with books by writers of the same type.

How each sees the other

ISTP → ISTP

You can sit side by side without explanation.

They fix things with the same hands.

Quiet.

ISTP → ISTP

The conversation stops.

They look unnatural.

Feeling drops on both sides.

What has been recorded

Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene

ConversationIt stops.
RomanceRare and short, the source says.
Living togetherEmotional fire comes from no one.
WorkStrong on quality in the field.
FamilyIt continues as a friendship with distance.

If you keep going

Find emotional fire outside
It comes from neither side.
Do not fill the silence
Two people's worth of quiet is silence.
Look at yourself
An opportunity to evaluate yourself with the eyes of the same type.

For these two

How to meet ── Deep inside the same hobby
A relation needing no explanation. Specialist gatherings, fans of the same author, the same sport. The person it got through to at once: that is the one.
Approach ── Connect through what is interesting
The bond between these two is interest alone. Interesting talk over talk of daily life. It ends when the interest ends, so keep the interest alive.
A date ── The same thing, side by side
A day of doing the same hobby side by side. The care of daily life comes from neither, so eat out.
Gifts ── same type; for both, Something new and interesting
A tool ISTP does not know, a first genre. Something that opens possibilities. What you would be glad to receive is exactly right for the other. But you easily give each other the same thing on the same day, so hand it over first, or shift it a little.

PROne thing for this relation

A relation that gets through from half a sentence, so experiences needing no explanation.

Frequently asked

The conversation does not continue
Exactly as observed.
My partner looks unnatural
Typical when the subtypes do not match.
It is tiring, like looking at myself
A feature of identity.
What is ISTP and ISTP compatibility in love?
Rare and short, the source says. More under "Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene" and "If you keep going".
Do ISTP and ISTP work well together?
Strong on quality in the field. More under "Love, living together, work, family: scene by scene" and "If you keep going".

This pair is the identity relation, one of the sixteen. How the relation itself arises, and how to tell it from the others, is on the relation page.

The two Model A's: what talks to what

ISTP on the left, ISTP on the right. Each shows where the eight elements sit; lines connect the same element. Where each line starts and ends decides what happens in this relation.

ISTP · SLIISTP · SLIEGO1 leadingSiintroverted sensing2 creativeTeextraverted logicSUPER-EGO4 vulnerableFeextraverted ethics3 roleNiintroverted intuitionSUPER-ID6 mobilizingFiintroverted ethics5 suggestiveNeextraverted intuitionID8 demonstrativeTiintroverted logic7 ignoringSeextraverted sensing1 leadingSiintroverted sensing2 creativeTeextraverted logic4 vulnerableFeextraverted ethics3 roleNiintroverted intuition6 mobilizingFiintroverted ethics5 suggestiveNeextraverted intuition8 demonstrativeTiintroverted logic7 ignoringSeextraverted sensing

Lines connect the same element in the other person's structure. 1–2 (strong) 3 (role) 4 (vulnerable) 5–6 (wanted) 7–8 (capable, indifferent)

1 → 1SiISTP's 1 (leading) Si (introverted sensing) sits in ISTP's position 1 (leading). Both strong here. Same ground: fast understanding, and some rivalry.
2 → 2TeISTP's 2 (creative) Te (extraverted logic) sits in ISTP's position 2 (creative). Both strong here. Same ground: fast understanding, and some rivalry.
3 → 3NiISTP's 3 (role) Ni (introverted intuition) sits in ISTP's position 3 (role). Both weak. The same thing goes wrong for both.
4 → 4FeISTP's 4 (vulnerable) Fe (extraverted ethics) sits in ISTP's position 4 (vulnerable). Both weak. The same thing goes wrong for both.
7 → 7SeISTP's 7 (ignoring) Se (extraverted sensing) sits in ISTP's position 7 (ignoring). Both capable, both indifferent. Left alone.
8 → 8TiISTP's 8 (demonstrative) Ti (introverted logic) sits in ISTP's position 8 (demonstrative). Both capable, both indifferent. Left alone.

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This page is also available in Japanese: ISTP と ISTP の相性. Русская версия: ISTP × ISTP.

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