Half a sentence, and it gets through. Someone who reads ahead at the same depth. But each is waiting for the other to push.
INTP × INTP is the Identity relation, one of the sixteen. Half a sentence, and it gets through.
Written as INTP × INTP it is the same pair. In 16Personalities terms, the Logician and the Logician.
The conversation is interesting and informative. Especially in the form of mentor and pupil. Shared intellectual interests.
In terms of the mechanism, the "intuition that calculates ahead" in INTP's first position and the "practical logic" in the second sit in exactly the same positions in the other. The view you are best at, the other is best at too. So no explanation is needed, and so no new perspective comes from the other either. The strong places overlap, and do not double.
In the old observations, in identity the same elements of both act in the same positions, and a complete, painless repulsion arises. Since no words are needed, there is also nothing the other can hand you. For these two, sensory initiative and emotional initiative are absent on both sides.
The observation says both find it hard to take the first step and expect the other to pursue almost aggressively.
Where identity is most useful is in learning. If a senior of the same type has walked the same road ahead of you, their experience can be used as it is. The observations too say repeatedly that it lasts long as mentor and pupil or with a difference in age. Only when two equal INTPs do the same thing in the same place does the repulsion described above arise.
Trying to move the other by demonstrative indifference, and draining their motivation further.
The main strategy is to show indifference and draw out the other's activity. It backfires. Indifference lowers an already low motivation further.
The empty places are the same too. The "force that pushes and takes" INTP wants most is what the other wants most, and neither has it. The "ethics that reads distance between people", which each produces with a little effort, takes a little effort from both. What flows in silently between duals never flowed between these two in the first place.
Both enter a long wait and are disappointed by the other's passivity. Recognising the futility of the relationship and losing hope, contact lapses.
As mentor and pupil, or as distant intellectual exchange, it continues. As a married couple it is "rather problematic", the source says.
The talk is interesting.
They read ahead at the same depth.
There are things to learn.
They do not move.
They show indifference.
They are waiting. So are you.
A recorded case of one trying to draw out the other's activity by demonstrative indifference, which lowered the other's motivation further.
Both enter a long wait, are disappointed by the other's passivity, lose hope, and contact lapses.
The conversation is interesting and informative, and works especially in the form of mentor and pupil, the record says.
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A relation that gets through from half a sentence, so experiences needing no explanation.
This pair is the identity relation, one of the sixteen. How the relation itself arises, and how to tell it from the others, is on the relation page.
INTP on the left, INTP on the right. Each shows where the eight elements sit; lines connect the same element. Where each line starts and ends decides what happens in this relation.
Lines connect the same element in the other person's structure. 1–2 (strong) 3 (role) 4 (vulnerable) 5–6 (wanted) 7–8 (capable, indifferent)
This page is also available in Japanese: INTP と INTP の相性. Русская версия: INTP × INTP.
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